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The Hateful Eight: Enemy Fats That Destroy Your Health
Table of Contents
- The Hateful 8 are the Bad Seed Oils We Need to Avoid
- Most Folks Don’t Know They’re Eating Seed Oils
- Seed Oil Weaken Your Immune System
- Your Immune System Needs You to Be Metabolically Fit
- Four Steps to Start Eliminating Seed Oils From Your Body Fat TODAY
- Links to Scientific References Page & Further Reading
- Related TWEETS
The Hateful 8 are the Bad Seed Oils We Need to Avoid
Every day you probably hear health and diet information delivered as gospel by doctors and scientists from the most respected institutions in the country. The rules of the media game typically require that the experts brought into the spotlight will be parroting the same information you’ve already heard thousand of times before. This is especially true when it comes to fats.
But Bill Maher isn’t afraid of rocking the boat. On Friday May 22, 2020, when one of the few in big media willing to talk about the relationship between diet and health like a grown-up, Bill Maher, invited me onto Real-Time to share some truth. (Short segment here, full audio here on stitcher, intro to my segment starts at 17:15)
To discover how seed oils and other nutritional issues may have affected your health and how to recover the fastest, please schedule a consultation.
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Here are some of the things we discussed.
Most Folks Don’t Know They’re Eating Seed Oils
The average American gets 80% of their fat calories from seed oils, which are high in unstable fatty acids that break down into toxins when you cook with them and when you eat them for years and years. This problem is pushed under the rug and nobody is talking about it. The American Heart Association wants to keep it that way.
Seed Oil Weaken Your Immune System
The virus is not what’s killing most of us under the age of 65. For the elderly, or for those who are otherwise immunocompromised, the sheer viral load can be too much for the body to deal with. But for the rest of us, the real threat is not the virus itself, but the way your body responds.
Most of the folks under 65 who have to be admitted to the ICU are there because their body fat is full of inflammation-promoting high-PUFA seed oils. In other words, if seed oils were removed from the equation, then there would be nobody under 65 in the ICU unless they’ve got a rare immune deficiency disorder or are in the middle of chemo for cancer or have something else very serious that’s going on.
What I’m talking about goes way beyond flattening the curve; the sheer volume of the curve would be reduced. If the Hateful 8 weren’t disrupting our metabolisms and forcing our immune system to produce dangerous levels of inflammation, kids are still at school, restaurants are still opened and people are still going to work.
During the interview with Bill Maher, I also made the point that everyone under 65 who had a serious case of corona also has an underlying metabolic condition–whether they know it or not. Even those thin people who’ve written articles about their experience, like Mara Gay, a reporter for the NY Times who looks glowingly healthy.
As fit and beautiful as she appears in the NY Times piece, I’m certain her metabolism is not in good shape. Your metabolism has to be very damaged indeed for it to cause visible signs of poor health. But it doesn’t have to be particularly damaged for it to fail you when the time comes for your immune system to rise to the challenges involved in what may be the ultimate metabolic test: fending off potentially deadly infections.
I’m so sure that seed oils are the underlying cause of metabolic disruption that I’m calling for a challenge. Show me a single person under 65 without a serious underlying disease or immune deficiency who ended up in the ICU who had been categorically avoiding vegetable oils for the prior 5 years and you’ve proven me wrong.
Keep in mind, I’m not just talking about avoiding trans fats from hydrogenated oils, which a lot of people think are the only bad fats to pay attention to. I’m talking any of the Hateful 8, hydrogenated or not.
Your Immune System Needs You to Be Metabolically Fit
Doctors are so poorly trained in metabolic disease that most can’t begin to appreciate how powerful the wrong dietary advice they typically dish out is disrupting your health. We tell you to avoid saturated fat and when you do you’re going to end up eating unhealthy amounts of PUFA. And so most doctors unknowingly give out nutritional advice that only makes people sicker. When our dietary advice fails to help our patients, we sometimes avoid the subject altogether by ignoring abnormal lab results and telling you “all your tests came back normal.”
That’s my best explanation for why half the adults in this country with metabolic conditions like fatty liver and prediabetes aren’t told they have the condition, and therefore don’t have any reason to believe they’re at risk for additional complications of metabolic diseases or at risk of suffering from serious infections.
Many other common conditions are also metabolic. For example, if you’re a person who suffers from frequent migraines, seasonal allergies, occasional asthma, you almost certainly have an unhealthy metabolism. These seemingly minor underlying conditions are enough to make a viral pneumonia potentially life threatening.
It’s not that migraines or allergies disrupt your metabolism. It’s that the underlying condition that causes migraines, allergies, and many other seemingly unrelated metabolic illnesses, is too much PUFA in your body fat.
Most people in the ICU are not eating, and that’s when these seed oils are going to be released from your body fat–during fasting. When released into the bloodstream, these PUFAs interact with enzymes that are part of your virus-fighting, immune-response team. Their function is to promote inflammation, in fact, that’s one of the key reasons a healthy diet includes about 2-4% PUFA. But the problem is, on a modern diet with 10-20X the normal amount of PUFA, our body fat releases 10-20X more PUFA into the bloodstream, and we get 10-20X more inflammation than we normally would.
That insanely high level of inflammatory chemicals in our bloodstream, lungs and other tissues causes metabolic pandemonium. We start drowning in our own fluids and can’t oxygenate our blood. Inside our arteries and veins, the platelets that are supposed to form clots only in response to cuts instead start clotting randomly inside uninjured vessels, causing neurological problems, heart attacks and strokes. Our immune system starts mounting attacks on innocent bystander proteins, like those in our blood vessel walls, causing rashes that are the hallmark of the new Kawasaki-like, life-threatening COVID-19 complication in children and young adults.
Four Steps to Start Eliminating Seed Oils From Your Body Fat TODAY
- Make your own salad dressing. Even if you buy your organic, GMO-free dressing at Trader Joes or Whole Foods, chances are it’s made from one of the hateful eight oils. This applies even if the front of the bottle says made with olive oil. You always need to read the ingredients. So take a snapshot of this hateful 8 and keep it on your phone. Or better yet, use this one that gives a little more detail.
- Take a good look at the ingredients in what you eat. Scan anything with an ingredients list for one of the members of the Hateful 8 clan. If you want alternatives, here’s a shopping guide to finding vegetable oil free products available in some of the most common grocery stores in the USA.
- Support restaurants that refuse to use the Hateful 8. There are numerous excuses you will hear why a restaurant doesn’t use olive oil or another healthy, traditional fat. Canola is heart-healthy. We use soy instead of peanut because of peanut allergies. It’s a neutral taste that people prefer. It’s got a high smoke point. Those excuses are the best marker I know of for a chef who has lost his passion. Whenever we’ve found a chef that proudly tells you he only uses olive oil and butter, or any of the good fats, we’ve also found the food coming out of the kitchen to be absolutely the best.
- Find out how much vegetable oil is in your body fat. While there’s no direct test other than doing a subcutaneous fat biopsy and sending it to a lab for a full analysis, which you can’t do unless you’re part of a research study, you can get a decent idea of how your body fat is impacting your metabolism by finding out if you are insulin resistant. Ask your doctor for a HOMA-IR test. If he doesn’t know what it is, in most states in the USA, you can order a test yourself. Visit this website for more information and select the “Insulin sensitivity Test, HOMA-IR.” It only costs about $45. Or ask your doctor to order two tests at the same time: fasting glucose and fasting insulin level. Then plug your numbers into this calculator. And given the reality of no direct testing, I created a clinical questionnaire to aid in assessing your recovery from PUFA overload. It’s published in The FATBURN Fix, and you can download it for free by entering your email in the green form at the bottom of this page.
If you would like to discuss any of this with Dr. Cate, feel free to schedule a consultation.
Links to Scientific References Page & Further Reading
Are Products with Soy Lecithin Safe to Eat? (Like Chocolate & Ice Cream)
Hidden Metabolic Disorders Allow COVID-19 to Kill “Healthy” People
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Refined peanut would be in the ‘ok but not great’ category. Back in the day beef tallow was the most commonly used oil in US deep fryers, as I understand. It’s cheaper than olive and would be more stable. I have heard from a couple of chefs who use olive in their deep fryers. Other options for frying include lard and bacon fat.
Yes it would but the amount is small and I couldn’t recommend stopping a medication based on that issue.
Hi–I read the lecithin article after I sent question. Thanks so much!! Trader Joe’s has a coconut creamer that is great. Determined to be free of the hateful eight!!
HI–Just curious, would too much of the unhealthy oils cause issues with b-12 I have since last year consistently had 1500-1585 b-12 and 5.4-5.8 folate. My internist doesn’t have a clue what this may mean. I am not taking a supplement.
Great, so no seed oils. That’s rule #1. Rule # 2 (Rules in FATBURN Fix) is don’t go crazy on sugar, so you want to figure out how much sugar is in the amount you’re gonna eat and be watchful of serving size so you get the dose of sugar accurately. Hope that helps!
Hi Dr. Cate. Great appearance on Bill Maher. I was wondering about your thoughts on Udo’s Oil. It’s “unrefined,” “fresh pressed” and says that it has the ideal ration of Omega 3 to Omega 6. It’s mostly flax seed oil but contains a few of the “Hateful 8? Would you consider it beneficial or a no go?
Dr Cate- following this post:
ingredients: Roasted Sunflower Seed, Sugar And Salt.
What scientific evidence does Dr Cate have to substantiate her claims about these eight seed oils? We need proven evidence to accept her arguments, otherwise we are dealing with just another Trump type conspiracy.
What about (subcutaneous) injectable medication that’s compounded with grapeseed oil? Does that pose the same problems as eating it?
Hello Dr. Cate,
I very much enjoyed your segment on Real Time last week. It was an eye opener and I am trying to read as much as I can of your blog and publications. If someone is bold enough to go on record and risk their reputation to defend their conclusion I am all in!
I live in Italy, and while have easy access to the most wonderful (and inexpensive) cold pressed extra virgin olive oils I am having trouble finding unrefined peanut oil (or similar) for frying. So I am wondering just how bad is standard peanut oil found on the grocery shelves. If you had to use a processed oil for deep frying would you recommend sticking with a variety from olives (e.g. pomace) or is refined peanut oil acceptable? Apologies if you have already addressed this in an earlier response.
Many thanks,
DG
No doubt Dr Cate knows what she is talking about, but if these seed oils are as bad for our health as she claims, why are they not banned from our supermarkets?
I’m not saying those oils are good, but this lady is either insane or an insanely sloppy writer.
1. “Show me a single person under 65 without a serious underlying disease or immune deficiency who ended up in the ICU who had been categorically avoiding vegetable oils for the prior 5 years and you’ve proven me wrong.”
Sure create a ridiculous hurdle and you can say anything. Show me one person any age, immunocompromised or not, who has chugged a quart of soy oil at any point in their life and ended up in the ICU due to Covid.
2. “Most people in the ICU are not eating, and that’s when these seed oils are going to be released from your body fat–during fasting.”
Are they not being fed either?
I’ll take my health advice from PdmanAgain.
This is fantastic and so true! My brother and I have luckily avoided contracting the coronavirus despite having exposure, as well as being essential workers, riding on the subway etc. We suspected metabolism health may have had something with it. Having predisposition to heart disorders and diabetes which ran in our families, since our teens we have pretty much avoided trans fats, seed oils all our lives while parents ate margarine instead of butter. I switched from margarine to butter since I was 18 and I am now a half-century old. The only alarm was my dr who said my cholesterol rose due to my increased usage of coconut oil in cooking.
I too am conscious of what I eat, began a vegetarian diet 10+ years ago, dropped 50 lbs down to 165. Concerned when I heard you on TV Friday night, and read your article on canola oil, and another article too emphasizing the same. I recently started a meal replacement, Huel, recommended by a family member. Huel’s Ready to Drink “complete meal” appears to have good nutrition, but see one of its ingredients is canola oil. I contacted Huel and they suggested I read
https://huel.com/pages/heal…
Huel’s article is “documented” with 38 footnotes. Their take seems to be that calling canola oil bad is old medical science. How does a non-physician, non-nutritionist like me sort out the facts? How does moderation of intake fit in, ie, what “dose” of canola oil is relatively safe, or is this a zero tolerance ingredient.
Loved your interview with Bill Maher. I have a couple conditions that my doctors can’t figure out. For almost 3 years I’ve been getting hives mostly on my arms & legs, but pretty much all over. I can break out daily, sometimes multiple times a day. They are calling it Cronic Idiopathic Urticaria. Benedryl is the only way to get rid of them. Another major condition is fibromyalgia/polymyalgia depending upon which doc I’m talking to. I’ve been getting a Kenalog shot every 4 months or so for over 10 years. I know they are not good for me but that’s what helps with the inflamation and constant pain. Do you have any suggestions? Could this be from the hateful 8? yes I do use some of those oils.
Hi Dr. Cate. I’m allergic to peanuts and have been using organic sunflower butter as a tasty substitute for peanut butter. Do I now assume that sunflower butter is part of the hateful eight?
Fantastic interview & info on Bill Maher, thank you. Can you tell me how NAD plays a role in this. I’ve read articles that NAD decreases substantially with aging & also CoVid destroys NAD. NAD is crucial to life, correct? I’m activating my genetic pathways including NAD & gave up bad oils decades ago so think I’m doing the best I can to ensure the best healthy longevity that I can. Can’t wait to get your book!
Yes, they do. I’ve listed the selections that have the lowest amount. One function of this google document is to help folks find the least worst when there are no good options.
Unrefined first pressed would be healthy to use on an occasional basis and not for extended high heat cooking. It’s still high in PUFAs, that’s why I wouldn’t use very often or for high heat.
Sesame seed oil is another example of a high PUFA oil good for occasional use in stir fry and quick stove top cooking, but not for extended high heat. It’s kind of like the candy of cooking oils, a tasty treat.
Saw you on Bill Mahre. Wife very impressed as was I. We use Sunflower oil. Are there methods whereby this oil could be safe? For example Unrefined First Cold Pressed? Or are all Sunflower oils verboten.
Chipotle uses a few of the hateful 8 on their website though
It’s not great, but it’s also a small dose. I’d say its ok to use until you can find an alternative. More details on lecithin here: https://drcate.com/are-prod…
Dr. Cate, great discussion on Real Time this past Friday. I have two questions regarding the hateful 8. Is it the seeds/nuts/beans themselves that are bad for you or the way the oil is extracted and processed that makes the PUFA bad? I eat mostly vegetarian and use nuts/seeds/bean and legumes as a source for protein and fiber. I always thought of soy beans (edamame) and sunflower seeds as good for you when used in whole raw form. Am I missing something and should I cut back/eliminate these? Look forward to reading your latest book.
Asthma improves after getting off the hateful 8. Takes a few months to start noticing significant improvements.
Here’s a document that starts to address that issue. If anyone wants to volunteer to add more info please comment here! http://bit.ly/DrCatesFastFo…
Hi Dr. Cate. Because of peanut allergies, I use organic sunflower butter instead for that peanut butter flavor I love. I assume now it is not a healthy substitute?
Rapeseed in some parts of the world including the USA goes by the name “Canola” Canola = Canada Oil = rapeseed oil
do you have power reviewed research in credible scientific journals to back up your claims?
thanks
Are there any fast casual or healthy chain restaurants that do not use any hateful 8 oils?
Hi Dr. Cate.
How do the bad oils negatively impact asthma? I have exercise induced asthma, which seems worse at night. I’d like to get off my inhaler if possible. Thanks
ORGANIFI is a plant based protein free of sunflower oil or soy lecithin
https://www.organifishop.co…
Hello Doctor and thank you for replying! The brand is Natures Promise Organic. The ingredients are dry roasted sunflower seeds, sugar (3g), sunflower oil, salt (50mg). Total fat 19g (sat fat 2g), cholesterol 0mg, fiber 2g, protein 5g….Thank you!
Is the monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat found in wild caught red sockeye salmon good fat?
Is the monounsaturated and polyunsaturated fat found in wild caught Alaskan red sockeye good fat?
Peanut butter should have nothing on the label except for peanuts and maybe salt. If it has anything else, it’s shite and should not be consumed.
Hi–Thanks for great interview on Bill Maher. Eye opening! I went to WF yesterday to buy a different coffee creamer. The one I purchased has sunflower lecithin. Is this OK?
There’s not much to choose from if you are dairy allergic!
My peanut butter has cottonseed and rapeseed. First, I assume that means it is bad. Second, I saw grapeseed listed but not rapeseed. So I need to look for peanut butter without seed oil? Also, those two seed oils were listed under vegetable oils. Will the seed oils always be listed individually?
What about expeller pressed or cold pressed oils? Aren’t they only lightly refined? And what about hemp seed oil, which is high in omegas 3 & 6?
Dr. Cate, Great discussion on Real Time. I had a questions about the hateful 8……. is it the seed/grain/bean itself or the way the oil is extracted and processed that makes it unhealthy? I eat mostly vegetarian and use nuts, seeds and beans as a source of protein and thought that sunflower seeds and soy beans (edamame) were a good option. What do you think about these foods? Will definitely be reading your latest book. Look forward to your feedback
Dear Dr. Cate, May 25. 2020
I find your article “The Hateful Eight” impressive. It deals with: What Can You Do To Strengthen Your Immune System?
On the other hand I also have an interview report with Matijn Katan prof at U of Amsterdam world renown expert on diet and cardiovascular decease. Prof Katan and you are observing mater from two different angles and purposes. He ranks the oil on the basis of Sat, Poly and Mono fats and finds Canola as the best. Olive is there close to Canola. If you would allow me your email, I can send you the whole report with charted graph oil ranking for your review and comment. I dont know how to attach it to Disqus.
I’m 75 yr old man, relatively healthy, playing singles tennis every day against much younger folks, eating less fatty foods and less red meat. I like vegetables and fish and potatoes.
I’d be interested if you ‘d suggest that I should switch my present Canola/ Olive routine for the benefit of my immune system.
I thank you for taking care of us and would appreciate your soon response.
Greetings
What about vegetable oil?
I agree it would be difficult to find a large cohort. However, thousands have stopped these oils since reading my book and similar books, so not at all impossible.
1.5-2 years for a normal weight person, possibly more if you’re overweight. That’s the hard part. But the good news is that you can start experiencing more energy the morning you build yourself a better breakfast, per the advice in FATBURN Fix
It may lower your cholesterol but that’s not a good thing, in my view and increasingly in the opinion of informed doctors. Here’s some resources for you https://bit.ly/DrCateABCRef…
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Hi Danny, Thanks for sharing your observation. I’m not an expert on protein powders or a huge fan of protein powders, sorry to say, because they’re chemically sticky and my patients experience improvements in skin and joint health when they stop taking them. I know, I know, it means giving up your fave smoothie so it’s unlikely to happen overnight. Real food is always your best friend.
Great interview and interesting information on Bill Maher. I was looking at the label on my Orgain Protein powder and it has high oleic sunflower oil in it. And then I looked at some other Soy based protein powders including Shaklee, which also had seed oils in it. It’s really interesting on how many things do have that in it. Going forward I am going to try to eliminate as much as I can but it seems very difficult to eliminate all things with seed oils completely and forever. Do you know of any soy based protein powders that do not have any seed oils in it? Thanks for the information.
Hi Dr. Cate. I use Swiss natural Cholessterol with Vegapure in it. All the hateful 8 oils are in this supplement. I was told that this supplement vastly reduces familial cholesterol. Is this false information?
My daughter likes to bake, what type of oil should someone use when it calls for vegetable oils?
No it’s not. there is no particular nation that has the “purest” and “healthiest” olive oil. They are not necessarily the same thing “purest” is not necessarily the healthiest. I’m assuming this is a promotion of sorts but first check the acidity level and your dietary habits, make sure it is made from 100% organic olives, that means check the origin of their certificate and whether it is accredited or not. many mid-large oil producers buy olives from different suppliers in order to keep the production going. Small oil producers can not necessarily keep the same taste, tanin and tart since weather, water, insects etc all influence the taste of the olive; that is if you know what you’re looking for. So pls don’t fall for promotions of countries like Italy, Greece, Turkey, Spain,Tunisia etc. the Mediterranean is known for wily sweet grifters.
How long does it take after stopping all hateful 8’s for it to be out of your system and metabolism /health restored?